Thursday, November 23, 2006

Campbell for Coal, Campell for Oil. Campbell for Climate? Not a Chance!

The BC government excels in supplying warm and fuzzy sound bites on its environmental record and commitment to reduce greenhouse gases, but at no time has their true commitment been more clearly demonstrated than in the past week.

While the public gathers at Environment Minister Barry Penner's office to protest BC's newly approved coal fired power plants which will single handedly increase BC's carbon dioxide emissions by 120%, Premier Gordon Campbell declared that BC's coastal waters will be open for oil drilling within three years.

Any opening of the BC coast to oil drilling would need federal approval, and Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn has stated point blank that addressing this issue is not in the federal government's plans, but Campbell has continued to pursue the issue despite consistent opposition from the public and the feds.

And so, while the overwhelming majority of British Columbians oppose coal power, oppose oil development and support action on global warming, the BC Liberals continue in their own commitment - to the fossil fuel industry and to moving British Columbia away from a sustainable energy future.


Anonymous said...

"And so, while the overwhelming majority of British Columbians oppose coal power, oppose oil development and support action on global warming, the BC Liberals continue in their own commitment - to the fossil fuel industry and to moving British Columbia away from a sustainable energy future."

But... the overwhelming majority of British Columbians also oppose rolling brownouts, higher electrical bills, and being told not to drive their cars. So... to those who both oppose coal power plants and oil development but also oppose sky-high energy bills and being forced to use public transit - hurry up and name your poison!

Never in my life have I seen such a province of NIMBYs.

Odiyya said...

Number 1, the last time i checked cars don't run on coal. Number 2 most people in BC want transit solutions not more roads (see below), number 3 most british columbians support conservation measures and sustainable energy development, both of which are readily available and affordable if the government would stop towing the industry line and make the right decision.

We also tend to endorse the democratic process. When 3/4 of citizens oppose an action like coal power the government shouldn't be pursuing it.

As for transit, nobody is being forced to do anything. Transit use is growing twice as fast as auto use, and half of all work trip to downtown vancouver are already done outside of the vehicle.

I'm sure its easier to argue by simply making up things to say, but the problem is it doesn't leave you looking very well informed. If you ever feel like citing a source for any of your assertions, i'd be happy to read them. Otherwise, you may want to spend less time talking and more time reading.

Shane said...

Always good to couch your arguments in personal attacks. I didn't notice you citing statistical references either in your assertions. We can either take each other at our words, or we can accuse each other of "making stuff up". It always serves to elevate the level of discussion and encourage open debate... or were you really not interested in that?

Despite everything you just said, transit STILL doesn't make any money and complaints come from translink routinely about ridership especially on the new Millenium line. But beyond that, you can't transport goods and services, in other words, the engines of economic growth, on roads clogged by handcuffed politicians crying "the people want more transit, not more roads". Sure more transit is desireable, but not cost-effective nor will it solve gridlock problems that simply MUST be solved, or risking economic collapse as business and industry pull out of a region that simply does not have the infrastructure to handle it.

Your version of an auto-free utopia can be realized today - just move to Ocean Falls, or Port Alice, or Tumbler Ridge. That is the fate that awaits if we refuse to recognize the value of industry and commerce to a community.

Odiyya said...

Let's start from the top.

Number 1 - this isn't a personal attack, I'm criticizing his policy. A personal attack would be "Gordo is a irresponsible drunk who has no business running public affairs". That is not the sort of comment I made. if you're referring to my last comment, Mr cheevus failed to cite any source, like yourself, and my comment stands.

Number 2 - I'll try to spell this out crystal clear using very small words so as not to lose you. HERE IS THE STATS ALREADY LINKED IN MY ORIGINAL ARTICLE.

Number 3 - though you talk a good talk about 'elevating debate, you have failed to cite any stats, let alone provide sources.

Number 4 - translink is not meant to make money. its meant to provide a public service. And skytrain suffers ridership problems for two reasons 1) there is not turnstiles to ensure ticket purchase 2) the government appointed board consistently selects low volume routes instead of needed routes, like the broadway corridor and the long proposed line to coquitlam.

Number 5 - Nobody said anything about an autofree utopia in the first place.

Number 6 - Saying that opposing coal and oil developments means brownouts and removing cars from the road is a strawman argument, as is your "refuse to recognize industry and commerce comment".

Saying no to coal power is not a failure to recogize industry, its about a selection of WHAT industry we as a society want to be involved in. That is what real debate is about. Not in rolling over and saying yes to polluting power without question.

My Opinion Only said...

The most annoying argument here is the one that suggests the environment must be sacrificed so industry and commerce will succeed. Hasn't anyone been listening to Al Gore or Stephan Dion? It's time the entrepreneural spirit and innovative brains in the private business sector stood up and moved forward. There's immense economic opportunity in the renewable energy INDUSTRY. There's immense commercial opportunity in developing and exporting technology designed to reverse or clean up contaminated sites/waters. Not to mention waste processing, sustatinable food production systems, sustainable energy technology, electical battery development, hybrid/hydrogen vehicles etc...

Come-on business leaders! Get out of your comfortable envelope and make us proud. Our environmental problems are business opportunities.

As for Campbell and his boys they need to select the appropriate clean industries and get behind them. BC has the opportunity to become a world leader here yet morons still gripe about how its either money or the environment. We can have our cake, eat it too and sell what's left over to the rest of the world. Lets' get on it!